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Secular Islam Summit


By Ali Eteraz
Posted on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 03:49:56 PM EST
Tags: islam, secular islam, america, Progressive Muslims (all tags)

The new islamic enlightenment starts in Tampa.

Because it will be on CNN I am going to cover it from head to toe. Imma be like a burqa on it (except a transparent one so you can see into it, thus not really a burqa at all, but if it was a burqa that would be a sexy one).

This is the first reaction from a Muslim organization I've gotten. It comes to us from Muslims for Progressive Values (note, they are not saying they are progressive Muslims, but identifying with progressive politics). It is from Ani Zonneveld:

I wouldn't touch this conference with a ten foot pole. I'm not interested in being in the same room with ex-Muslims claiming to 'reform' Islam as I am interested in being in the same room with a bunch of fascists claiming that their Islam is the only way. In both cases, neither group are open minded, distort the Quran either to vilify Islam or to vilify others. 

There you have it.

By the way, if anyone's keeping track, the previous Islamic Reformation came out of Morgantown, West Virginia.

A reformation and an enlightenment, within three years!!! Oh damn, we've even had an Islamic Renaissance. A Muslim Martin Luther. A thirty years war. Hey, we forgot the counter-reformation!

Shit, Islam moves fast. Soon we'll be at postmodernism, and then at the Bush-ean neo-conservative stage, which mean back to tyranny, and thus we'll be full circle in less than five years. I know Ibn Khaldun said history was cyclical, but I had no idea it spun like this.

That being said, I'm still covering the conference. 

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I am sorry, what?(none / 0) (#1)
by iFaqeer on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:07:41 PM EST
Being an early member of that group, I confidently speak for myself, and I am confident I speak for at leats some of the leadership of MPV, when I say that you are not correct in saying that "they are not saying they are progressive Muslims". I know I am. That's why I am a part of that group.


um(none / 0) (#2)
by Ali Eteraz on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:12:42 PM EST
ok suit yourself but youre shooting yourself in foot

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oh(none / 0) (#3)
by Ali Eteraz on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:14:41 PM EST
i do wonder: y isnt ur name 'progressive muslims for progressive values' then?

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Huh?(none / 0) (#6)
by iFaqeer on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:42:43 PM EST
...because that might be redundant? Why does the name have to conform to a check list? Did every communist party have the word "communist" in it's name? Or the word "Marxist"? Do the two major parties in the US or Britain, for example have the phrase "Left of Center" and "Right of Center" in their name? Does the ruling party of Turkey have the word "Islamist" in its name? Did the Indian National Congress's name include the word "Socialist" in it? Does the Pakistan People's Party?

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Progressive(none / 0) (#9)
by G. Willow Wilson on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 12:27:53 AM EST
Ali's right in that "Muslims for Progressive Values" sounds like an attempt to sneak away from the now death-knellish label of 'Progressive Muslim'. That was my first thought when seeing the name of the group. The members of PFLAG, Parents For Lesbians and Gays, are not themselves gays and lesbians. Make sense?

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History on steroids(none / 0) (#4)
by jahandost on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:19:23 PM EST
One has to ask is history on steroids or something in Islam right now? With so many Martin Luthers running around can we get a couple of Councils of Trent while we are at it. :)

hey!(none / 0) (#5)
by Ali Eteraz on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:21:26 PM EST

i want to be rabelais.

who wants erasmus???? 



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Influence(none / 0) (#7)
by iFaqeer on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 04:44:04 PM EST
I pick a person who had influence on them long distance...oh, say, "Averroes"?

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Erasmus(none / 0) (#8)
by jahandost on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 06:12:45 PM EST
if not Desiderius Erasmus then how about Erasmus Darwin? Hehe. :p

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