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By Haroon
Posted on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 07:43:39 PM EST
Tags: Islam, History, Theory, Religion (all tags)

Why is that, when we study the contemporary Islamic world, we look to several centuries ago -- a la Irshad Manji -- and expect that mindsets from ages back can somehow explain contemporary affairs? Why is it that non-religious, or at least avowedly more secular persons, seek religious (i.e., "cultural") explanations for perceived shortcomings that should have material causes, economic, demographic, agricultural, mercantile, political, etc.? Islam is idealized, idolized and demonized as the "uber-religion" -- it exists as religion in place of the concept of religion, and as a normative ideal (or nemesis) it transcends space and time. Fascinating, isn't it? 

 

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sir(none / 0) (#1)
by Ali Eteraz on Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 07:55:36 PM EST

your critique cuts both ways

it isn't just the non-religious or secular people who seek to link shortcomings to Islam. the ultra-religious also seek to link shortcomings to Islam. In their case, shortcomings are caused by NOT being Muslim enough (Tablighi Jamaat anyone). And in terms of numbers, the ultra-conservatives certainly outnumber the non-religious.

another implication of what you're saying is that islam is NOT a way of life (as conservatives define it) -- as in it does not control economics, finance, and manufacture. im fine with agreeing with that, but ultra-conservatives are not.

say something against that too, would you. 



That's not internally consistent.(none / 0) (#2)
by Haroon on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 06:32:47 AM EST
If you do believe Islam is a total way of life, then it's not internally consistent, Ali. It's, in fact, practically impossible to argue against -- ideological explanations generally always are. That's why they make bad history. (But they do not make contradictory readings of history.)

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