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Church and State


By Ali Eteraz
Posted on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 12:11:37 PM EST
Tags: secularism, islam (all tags)

Booman Tribune recently wrote on the matter of separation of Church and State.

Booman says:

In fact, any political belief that is primarily motivated by your religion is inherently suspect. This is never more true than when your particular political belief (that is based on your religion) is highly sectarian in nature.

He then clarified:

If your opposition to the use of contraception is based on adherence to the teaching of the Vatican, then you are attempting to proscribe a behavior based on a very narrow basis. You can be as sincere as a heart attack, but you are still trying to impose religious beliefs that are largely particular to your sect on to a population that does not share that belief. In fact, you are attempting to impose laws on people that even most of your co-religionists don't agree with.

The crux of Booman's argument is that a man cannot go into Congress and extol Congress to manifest the "Will of God."  In this I am in agreement. It is reasonable. It behooves us as Muslims, member of a very minority faith in this country, nowhere near as profligate and powerful as the Christian Right, to abstain from engaging in religious competition. We will always lose. In Western politics -- which is the only politics that matter since the West is where we live -- it is in our interest to keep things neutral, and even, non-religious. Otherwise we may be put in a position to adopt the religious requirements and worldviews of a religion we have no interest in following. This "neutrality" exists to protect religions-not-in-power from the horrifying monster that is a state run by one particular religion in religion.  We have seen first hand, and lived first hand, through a state run by one particular religion (Bush's Christian Evangelical). Is that something minority religions wish to see enacted again? In a religious free for all Christian Fundamentalism will always win. It is 40 - 80 million strong.

Muslims, and many other religious people on the left, take offense from this statement: "In fact, any political belief that is primarily motivated by your religion is inherently suspect."

Please note, the issue is whether one may EXPLICITLY couch his desire to see particular legislation in RELIGIOUS terms. This is not allowed. What is NOT disallowed is for a person's entire worldview to BE informed by religion.

If, in the event that I am every elected to Congess -- and I will have Senatorial aspirations one day -- I will propose a lot of legislation that is consistent with my Islamic worldview. However, what I will not do, is state that the legislation ought to be adopted because it is the Will of God.

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Spot on(none / 0) (#1)
by Wellwisher on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 03:58:44 PM EST

Ali, Assalaamu 'alaikum

It's regrettable that more Muslims do not think along the lines you have presented here. 

It reminds me of an Imam who once said: "A Mullah is a Mullah whatever the creed: just as Muslims have their narrow-minded Mullahs, Christians, Hindus, Jews and Buddhists have their own Mullahs too."

Why is it that people are so fanatical about imposing their views on others, with that "I am holier than thou" attitude? It can't be solely due to a lack of education, for there are highly-educated religious people who nevertheless do not seem to understand things any better than their cavemen ancestors did.

The rhetoric of fanatic Jewish rabbis, Bible-thumping evangelists and Muslim Mullahs sounds suspiciously the same...Only the vocabulary varies, but the ideas and attitudes are identical. On the other end of the spectrum, the relatively moderate 'religious' political voices that appear here and there in the Western world, with their ideas based on the "it's the will of God" principle - whether Christian or Muslim - also sound quite similar.

Any idea why that is?



check it(none / 0) (#6)
by paranoun on Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 05:30:32 AM EST

 

Rokeach book 'The open and closed mind' has concise explanations. it debunks the accepted ways of classifying 'people': liberal moderate and conservative.  It focuses on the 'structure of thinking, as a whole.  structure of thinking explains the commonality (odd) between a Muslim fundy and a Baptist fundy etc.



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uhh(none / 0) (#2)
by Maleeha on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 04:50:02 PM EST

Is what you're saying even controversial? I mean, isnt it just common sense that Muslims in American shouldnt promote political positions by saying "This is what Allah (swt) and His beloved Prophet Muhammad want me to do?" Where do you see Muslims saying otherwise? Ofcourse you may have political beliefs that are consistent with your religious ones, but the former promoted in terms of the latter will never get Muslims anywhere. I thought this was common sense (?)



Well...(none / 0) (#3)
by Wellwisher on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 05:17:15 PM EST
I thought it was common knowledge that there is little common sense in politics, as a rule!

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controversy(none / 0) (#4)
by Ali Eteraz on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 05:37:24 PM EST

maleeha

believe it or not everything i say is not controversial

im just a person 



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alrighty then(none / 0) (#5)
by Maleeha on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 05:52:58 PM EST
sorry. carry on.

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