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Problems With Jihadwatch's Op-Ed In Emory Univ. Student Paper


By Ali Eteraz
Posted on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 02:02:01 PM EST
Tags: islam, law, jihadwatch (all tags)

We can conclude that the politicization of American universities is complete when everyone from Barrack Obama, a popular candidate for President, and Jihadwatch, a blog on the fringes of American conservatism, both feel the need to dive into our intellectual sanctuaries to peddle their opinions. As a matter of policy, politicians and pundits should abstain from entering the academcy unless they are invited.

Recently, Jihadwatch writer Robert Spencer submitted an op-ed full of glaring errors to the Emory Wheel, Emory University's Student Paper. The central premise of this op-ed (which is a shortened version of his earlier post), was this:

Unfortunately, however, jihad as warfare against non-believers in order to institute "Sharia" worldwide is not propaganda or ignorance, or a heretical doctrine held by a tiny minority of extremists. Instead, it is a constant element of mainstream Islamic theology.

The article then quotes various legal scholars from Islamic history that purportedly support the thesis of the article. It then, generously, concludes with challenging a college student to a debate.

Immediately one has to look at the most obvious of errors in this piece.

First, none of the scholars Spencer cites to were alive after the year 1406 A.D. The only link he offers between the past and today is the assertion that one of the jurists, Ibn Taymiya (d. 1328), is a "favorite of Osama bin Laden and other jihadists." Yet, on the basis of the fact that one jurist, from more than 600 years ago, is the "favorite" of Bin Laden, Spencer derives his conclusion that Jihad is a "constant" element of "mainstream Islamic theology." One scholar. 600 years removed. One Bin Laden. Can a reasonable person really believe that such a link proves something about "mainstream Islamic theology"? One doesn't have to attend Emory University to be able to answer that.

The next problem is the very use of the term "Islamic Theology." Spencer seems to believe that when he quotes from "jurisprudence" he is automatically speaking about "theology." We see this when he says:

Instead, it is a constant element of mainstream Islamic theology. It is affirmed by all four principal schools of Sunni Muslim jurisprudence

I'm afraid to inform the distinguished New York Times bestselling author on Islam that Islamic Theology is very distinct from Islamic Jurisprudence. Islamic Theology is an altogether different discipline encompassing metaphysics, philosophy and eschatology. It is called Kalam. (One would be well advised to read Profesor Wolfson's Philosophy of the Kalam in order to see how distinct Islamic Jurisprudence truly is from Islamic Theology). Kalam is speculative philosophy which produces theological precepts. Islamic Jurisprudence, as with all jurisprudence, on the other hand, deals with actual legal problems. The word for Islamic Jurisprudence is fiqh. I am very interested in learning how Kalam and Fiqh became one and the same.

This leads me to some other other problems with the article.

Islam is, like Judaism (and unlike Christianity which is what Spencer practices), a juridical religion. The Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet, both contain conflicting verses and narrations. In order to fashion a means of reconciling these conflicts with the changing nature of human life, the earliest members of Muslim community devised a methodological system of law or jurisprudence (fiqh). Spencer is, unlike the average blog troll, actually aware of the juridical nature of Islam, and as such, a dialogue with him is not only possible, but refreshing. He recognizes that the best way of enunciating Islamic Law is to quote Islamic Jurists. For that much, he should be applauded.

However, the problem arises when Spencer then tries to convince everyone from his readers to Muslims themselves, that the only authentic jurists (or most popular jurists) are those from the past from whom he pulls his quotes. Certainly, people like Ibn Taymiya and Ibn Khaldun were authentic jurists in Islam. Unfortunately, what Spencer doesn't recognize is the fundamental problem of jurisprudence, whether its Islamic or secular: jurists are bound by their context; the world around them

One has only to think of American Jurisprudence. At one point in time, American Jurists like John C. Calhoun argued that "slavery was a positive good" (on the Senate floor no less). Even the founding fathers, jurists the likes of which very few have ever existed, held that a black man was, under the law, only worth 3/5th of a white man (and women were worth nothing). Does this mean that "bigotry is a constant element of American law?" Any reasonable person would conclude no. As such, any reasonable person should also be able to conclude that the world prior to 1406 -- when a Christian Europe and an Islamic Africa/Asia were at war, is a very different world than the post WWII, UN regulated world. The rulings of those jurists -- and a jurist is just a fallible lawyer -- in the past about their politics means no more to me than the jurisprudence of John C. Calhoun on race relations. It isn't just in race relations that American Jurisprudence has changed. Until 1986, the legislators in the state of New York allowed a 15 year old girl to be married. This law was changed when jurists came along and revised their opinion and made it 18. 

So, how do we know that most Muslim people do not, and are not, listening to the edicts of jurists from 600 years ago? Well, most Muslim nations are not at war with non-Muslim nations, and where there are tensions these are not on the basis of anyone's religiosity (most are land disputes). The only "Muslim" parties today who engage in killing on the basis of someone being non-Muslim are jihadists; not the "mainstream of Islamic theology." For the most part, jihadists are prosecuted as criminals all around the Muslim world (the Pakistani military has lost close to 2000 men in hunting Al-Qaeda), and jihadist methods and approaches are rejectedby Muslims universally; not to mention giving rise to anti-jihadist fatwas.

In fact, one will see that Spencer's article cites to a jurist from the Maliki school of law (Khaldun), yet if one compares Khaldun (d. 1406) with this jurist alive today from the Maliki school, we immediately see how the jurist today conceptualize war (very differently from the past). Here is another example, this jurist being a student of scholars trained at al-Azhar university, and concludes this about violence:

A. Taking the law into one's own hands amounts to either Fasad fi'l-Ard (creating disorder) or Muharabah (rebellion) -- both of which are punishable by death in Islam.

B. The Prophet's saying (sws) usually cited to give credence to the idea that Islam allows an individual or a group the use of force to end wrong is actually related to the use of power within the confines of the social and legal authority.

C. In Islam, there is no concept of Jihad (Qital to be more precise -- that is militant struggle in the way of Allah) or the implementation of punishments without the authority of the State.

I therefore want to thank Spencer for providing an opportunity to demonstrate to Muslims and non-Muslims alike that in Islam, changed conditions bring about changes in law. American Law with respect to racism and gender underwent reformation. Islamic Law with respect to violence against non-Muslims has also modified to fit with the world in which it finds itself. 

I completely accept the usual rejoinder from critics that there are many areas of Islamic Law where today's jurists have simply accepted the opinions of jurists from the past (and done injustice). This includes women's rights, minority rights, and the issue of apostasy, among others. However, as time passes, more and more Muslim jurists are making up their own minds about these issues. I'm not even a jurist and I am doing my own thinking about these matters.

Sheikh Ali Gomaa, the high Mufti of Egypt, whom Spencer in another post tries to paint as an extremist because Gomaa (like John Ashcroft) does not allow graven images in statues, recently allowed women to get hymen reconstruction surgery, as well as allowing women the right to political leadership. Other major jurists today have allowed women the right to lead prayer. Even al-Azhar University, by no means a bastion of reform, has taken a strong stance against Female Genital Mutilation which it once used to permit. Islamic Law changes. I hope that is obvious by now. The way islamic jurisprudence evolved to make rules limiting violence serves as a model of how islamic jurisprudence will evolve to give rights to women, minorities and non-Muslims. I wish that Spencer would recognize this and leave Muslim reformists from having to correct his errors.

In conclusion, jihadists, whom Spencer tries to link to the Islamic schools of law are actually deniers of Islamic legal methodology, preferring to circumvent Islamic Law altogether. This actually confirms a point I've made previously; namely, the problem within Islam is a problem of intellectual anarchy which I provide one way of how to address.

And this problem is not alleviated when a group claiming to watch the jihadis is looking in all the wrong places.

I want to thank Emory students Sharefa Aria, Ridwan Khan, Huma Mirza and Aneel Naeem who articulated their response to Spencer. I also want to bid kudos to Emory sudent Ammara Abbasi for writing this wonderful article on the moral and ethical principles that underlie the spiritual jihad. While I am heartened to see American students articulate their disagreements in such a positive manner, it is somewhat problematic that young adults who should be studying for their mid terms and enjoying going to parties are put in the absurd position of having to defend their faith from someone outside the academy who already have careers writing about Islam.

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Jihadi rhetoric is believable(none / 0) (#1)
by OmarG on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 02:50:39 PM EST
"Well, most Muslim nations are not at war with non-Muslim nations, and where there are tensions these are not on the basis of anyone's religiosity (most are land disputes). The only "Muslim" parties today who engage in killing on the basis of someone being non-Muslim are jihadists;"
Well, this is why the jihadis so stridently protray these states as wholly un-Islamic or at the very kindest, inauthentically Muslim. This is why jihadi theorists have long called military jihad "the neglected duty". So, while Spencer whom I can't stand to read, fails to link medieval juristic opinions to today's majority practice of Islam, the jihadis already have an answer for that. And, lets beware of saying that jihad is not warfare to establish shariah just because today's secular, marxist and rentier states do not pursue such policies. It really comes down to the issue of who represents Islam and who has the authority to define it for us and for the outside world. The jihadis are doing quite well in defining all of us to the outside world. The fact that our critiques and refutations of them are so tortured and innovative makes our position look very weak (and the hadith about the lesser and greater jihad seems to be a sufi fabrication from much later after the prophet). The jihadi narrative is simple, to the point and looks on the surface at first glance to be an accurate representation of the intent of Islam. Our critiques must be even simpler and direct than thiers. They are currently not.

violence(none / 0) (#2)
by Ali Eteraz on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 02:54:18 PM EST
the "narrative" of violence is always "simpler" and "easier" omarg and the counter-narrative is always complex and requires a lot of work. but we already knew this. what is your solution?

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I don't have one(none / 0) (#3)
by OmarG on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 03:03:26 PM EST

I don't have a solution. If that discredits me or disqualified me from commentary, so be it. Read the comments to the articles from the Wheel you cited in your writeup. Clearly, many of the students (if they are students and not planted trolls) are not buying the rhetoric of Lesser and greater jihad. Ammara Abbasi's response should be the standard; the 4-author article was terrible and solved nothing except making us look we like we want to censor critiques.

I think the early Muslims had to, should have fought the Quraish. We need to examine the attitudes we have today where we want to ignore that history and all subsequent Muslim colonizations. We can't; our opponents and even just curious onlookers rightly will not let us. 

So, we can only say, "The past: so what? Me, myself and I do not now beleive I should subject you to force and cause you to submit to my shariah." It should be that plain, but young college students seems to be deathly afraid of saying such things and then possibly be condemned by the uncles for selling out. Wussies will always get F'ed in America, so its time that Muslims deal with that reality = they shouldn't be apologetical wussies. 



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so then(none / 0) (#4)
by Ali Eteraz on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 03:06:00 PM EST

u just offered a solution =)

i agree with you. the abbasi response was better. 



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aim of our article(none / 0) (#5)
by kikuchiyo on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 06:43:11 PM EST

Perhaps her response was better because ours wasn't meant for Spencer's site or Eteraz?  As many people have picked up on, our point wasn't to get into a debate with Spencer, validate his views, or promote censorship.  Our point was to remind the editors and staff of the Emory Wheel that we are their friends and classmates and that their capricious actions have caused a rift in OUR community at our college and that their actions have very real consquences in how we feel as students at this college.

- kikuchiyo 



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fair distinction(none / 0) (#6)
by Ali Eteraz on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 06:50:21 PM EST

i buy that distinction. it ties into what i wrote in the very first paragraph. discussions at universities should stay within universities. nor should outsiders jump unless invited. in that context, your response was appropriate b/c it was community centric. problem was that the issue had already been rendered mainstream due to the wheel accepting the article.

i really would be interested in seeing what history there is at the wheel to publish outsiders' articles without solicitation. i know that they have published carter, but he's an affiliated professor of some type. this should be looked into. 



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us(none / 0) (#7)
by kikuchiyo on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 06:54:02 PM EST

OmarG: Unless you go to the college, it's not an "us" issue.

- kikuchiyo 



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uh, yes it is(none / 0) (#13)
by OmarG on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:45:33 AM EST

Don't play the "you can't play ball with us" Bs with me. This stuff gets dragged into the national arena so like it or not, it becomes an "Us" issue for every Muslim whose embarrased by the same apologetical routines that simply don't work...

PS, if you're wondering, I'm in the graduate program, Islamic Studies - University of Arizona.



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audience(none / 0) (#14)
by kikuchiyo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 09:30:12 AM EST

It was addressed to the Emory Wheel and written, most broadly, for the Emory Muslim community. 

- kikuchiyo 



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oye(none / 0) (#15)
by Ali Eteraz on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 09:34:15 AM EST

cut the kids some slack omarg before i start whooping you up like you're an undergrad

=)

frankly you're right, it does get dragged into national media but its not the job of college age students to recognize that

its the job of organizations like cair and mpac and of that non existent organization that will come and save us, to provide effective and TRUTHFUL counter measures when these kind of things occur

when our mainstream muslim orgs do get involved in university matters, they just offer apologetics. i feel you. its counter productive and wrong.

however, pinning a change in that trend on college kids is also unrealistic.



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Emory Article(none / 0) (#8)
by anaeem on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 07:00:59 PM EST

Asalamulaikum,

Well as one of the authors of the 'terrible' piece and a fairly regular reader of eteraz.org, I feel some clarification of events is in order in terms of our MSA's actions.  Understandably, this information is not readily available to the average Eteraz reader, so I take no personal offense to your opinion OmarG.  First of all, the Abbasi piece was very well done, and certainly rebutted some of the general themes that Spencer was advocating. 

However, our point was not to "get" Spencer, because we recognize his career track as a not so impartial observer of Islam.  And as Eteraz himself said, we as undergrads (of which three are pre-med...I know...sell-outs) do not have the time or desire to engage point for point with a known polemicist, especially one who wants us to debate him on the merits of a particular opinion Ibn Taymiyyah wrote in the 13th century.  

In actuality, the event that spurred on this whole ordeal was our newspaper's initial decision to run an ad by Horowitz which equated jihad solely with aggressive violence and Muslims with Nazis, amongst other things.  Notably, a number of school newspapers refused to run this ad, as they would if someone submitted a cartoon depicting holocaust-denial.  Nonetheless, two student editorial responses were printed (one by a Muslim and another by a non-Muslim) which stated the understood orthodox Muslim position on Jihad, such as its multi-faceted dimensions, and why Mr. Horowitz's ad was so myopic and errant.  Anyhow, the MSA officers met with the Wheel staff and lodged their protest at such a gross depiction (which was met with the standard "free speech/we want to stimulate discussion" response).  On our part thinking the matter was done, the Wheel decided to exacerbate the issue and post a response by Robert Spencer, while depicting him with an unfair air of legitimacy in our opinion by listing him solely as a "Best-selling author," and omitting the subtitle of his book "The Truth about Muhammad: The Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion."  In the end, again our point was to not engage Spencer, nor did we think we needed to, but rather to publicly chastize the Wheel for skewing the discourse on Islam and Jihad unfairly and in a tabloid-like manner.  The call for censorship, as you saw it, was really not our point either, because even we know that is neither feasible nor a long-term solution.  Rather, it was meant as a shot across the bow for a newspaper student staff that grossly mishandled and misjudged the situation to everyone's detriment except the Islamophobes.  Hell, I'll be honest I felt our point in the context of the Emory community was very similar to Dean Esmay's.  That we cannot have true discourse on very important matters when the conversation is being perpetually distored by Islamophobes and polemicists such as Horowitz and Spencer.  Also,  I'm not sure what the situation is at most other colleges, especially large public ones, but administrators here do take a very active role in student affairs in a positive way.  In fact, we did meet with the University President (who was equally offended about the ad) on methods to make something positive out of this whole unfortunate affair, and are coming up with a more complete plan of action with inter-faith multi-ethnic groups, so as to not be relegated to simply tit-for-tat pieces on a campus newspaper.  

Anyhow, If the readers of Eteraz don't feel this to be the proper tact in dealing with Spencer-like individuals or a continually provocative newspaper editorial policy, especially given our position as collegiate students dealing within our own relatively small academic community (rather than the blogosphere), so be it.  Even then if you have any concrete suggestions, I am totally open to them.  Anyhow, that's more or less the end of my apology for our piece, sorry if it's long-winded, but I'm assuming most of you like to read :).

Take Care,

Aneel Naeem 

 



Aneel(none / 0) (#9)
by Maleeha on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 07:10:26 PM EST
I personally felt that both yours and Ms. Abbasi's piece were fine, and not really comparable since they were making separate points. The fact that you guys found the time to do this is commendable. As a university student myself, I know how time-consuming things can be.

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Glad that you don't take offense(none / 0) (#11)
by OmarG on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 08:37:20 PM EST

Salam alaikum, I'm glad you don't take offense at my rather harsh words towards your writeup; no personal jabs were intended. I am glad that there were robust  responses to Spencer et al. He and his acolytes annoy me. However I did not think the group response was the right one. Heck, his critiques sometimes even resonate with me because I know too many muslims here in the states who DO fulfill what he says, if you can believe that. So, here are some constructive comments meant in the best way for even better responses:

1) don't accuse media outlets of being in bed with a hater...even if its true. It plays into his criticque and fulfills the stereotypes. Remember, its not the people who give you support that you should think about; its the majority who do not comment either way who, when push comes to shove, will not take your side. Which leads me to:

2) Don't be misled by well-intentioned people who support Muslims: they are of two kinds (indulge my enumerations; I've been reading Ghazali and Ibn Arabi all week and thier enumerations of kinds, sorts and types has gotten me): patronizing white leftists seething with white guilt and the other kind are other minorities who think we would or even can stand in solidarity with them. It is misleading because most people in regular America outside of academia are not like this. National opinion polls by reputable firms and sponsored by reputable orgs find that Joe Sixpack and John Smith, Esq and Suzie Homemaker do think we are the enemy by leaps and bounds.

3) The tone of the piece sounded perhaps a bit too plantive but in a strangely combative way: reminding people that you are thier classmates is nice to humanize us as the Other, but for people who know Islam and Muslims from the daily news about Iraq, the fact that we are so close is yet another cause for fear. Simply appealing to humanity is useless when people are afriad; thier self-interest to be protected will override thier humanity.

4) It is therefore necessary to *demonstrate* how and why Spencer is wrong. And no, using fabricated hadiths will not work, because Islam the theory is the movie we want to show them, but they watch  muslim reality TV all the time and don't want to watch the movies / propaganda we want them to see.

So, how to? It sucks that others can force our hand; Basic military strategy says that we will loose if we continue to only react to each Spencer BS-gram. Taking the initiative away from him and his acolytes is a must and put THEM on the defensive. It sucks that when we should be studying and having fun at college, we have to instead become activists and give 110% just to be the same normal Americans that others accomplish with no effort whatsoever. don't be afraid to say loudly and publicly and that  you will never force shariah on people;make prominent showings at campus charity events and heck, even organize student anti-extremism conferences and don't listen to the uncles who think we are selling out.



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why shy away from debate?(none / 0) (#12)
by azizhp on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 07:22:19 AM EST

FYI I added a link to your response on the Carnival of Brass so its getting widespread exposure within the Islamic blogsphere. However, I think your basic premise is faulty; there really is no reason why the Wheel should not have run Horowitz' ad, as long as they gave equal space to you to rebut. Which they did; in fact reading all the pieces that have been linked i think you acquitted yourselves pretty well in defense. That means that readers of the Wheel got a more fuller picture of the issues than had Horowitz' ad never run. You come across sounding aggreieved that someone would say bad things about Islam' news flash, thats going tohappen anyway, and matters not one whit. My advice is to focus less on "how dare they!" and simply stick to ethfactual responses. I guarantee you that this is a trend that will increase.

If it comes to a debate, we win. Because we are on the side of reason, and Haq.  Rather than complain about it, embrace the opportunity. Its good practice for all of us to become as able defenders of our beliefs in the public sphere. 


--
City of Brass: principled pragmatism at the maghrib of one age, the fajr of another


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'Standard' Responses(none / 0) (#16)
by anaeem on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:33:51 PM EST

Again, it was not about shying from debate.  Rather, the objection was to our newspaper first selling space for horowitz's dishonest ad and then intentionally exacerbating the issue with a known outside provacateur.

We want our newspaper (with us being equal members of the Emory community) to treat any issue pertaining to us with the regard of community newspaper and not a tabloid (this distinction was first articulated by the University president, so please don't think we are simply being reactionary). Conversely, would you criticize the campus newspapers of GTech, NYU, etc. for not running the Horowitz ad, and 'stifling' debate as Spencer's proponents state?

I understand where you all are coming from, and I know for many of you who are active on the blogosphere you don't have the luxury of 'shying' from debate.  However, in our local intra-community context I feel this is the best approach, and I would only rely on outside bullet points or 'standard' responses (CAIR, MPAC, or Eteraz) only if the local grassroot organization (in this case the MSA) decided it merited their need. (incoming self-glorification) Also, we are not the typical college MSA/Muslim 'ghetto' that one often sees and I feel some of you are stereotyping us to be to your own ignorance.  For instance, we have been Emory student organization of the year for the past three consecutive years, and our MSA forefathers established us to be first and probably still only U.S. university to have public adhan on Fridays during Ramadan, amongst many other examples.  The point is we feel we have staked a fair and prominent position on our campus over the many years not through antagonism, but by being productive and on the forefront of our larger non-Muslim community.  Thus, we feel we have attained the position whereby there is no need to prove to others on campus that we are not the taqiyya-espousing "jihadis" Mr. Spencer proclaims us to be or some obscure fifth column on campus.  To us the fact that our newspaper asked us to confront or 'debate' such slander in our context is akin to asking African-Americans to prove their intellectual and moral equality with whites.    Essentially, we argued that this debate is below our university and our newspaper was doing a disservice to all of us by engaging in it as such.  We are not in a blogosphere context (or even in mainstream news context), this is a discussion within a well-established and physical academic community.  There's no pseudonyms and a minimal amount of trolls.  

     Thus, I take exception to this advocacy of 'standard' responses, because that is to assume every context is the same.  Our context is very different to what many of you face, and that's why our response is not apt for this blog or probably any other when it comes to this topic.  It's not apt for a Atlanta-Journal Constitution audience either.  However, our response is absolutely necessary in terms of taking a principled stand in our local Emory community about how we want it to reflect us.  At this point, for us in our position and context to do anything other than take this resolute stand would be erring more towards mental masturbation than getting the best possible and deserved outcome from this situation.



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community bulletin board(none / 0) (#17)
by kikuchiyo on Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 11:54:32 PM EST

I totally back Naeem up here.  We are invested in the broader Emory community and our response was appropriate in that context.

Sorry we couldn't fix American-Muslim relations but as for me, all I really wanted was to effect change in the people here on campus, which has happened.  The issue has been brought up with the university's president, the Muslim student body here has become aware of the situation, and non-Muslims at Emory have mailed us with their support.  Non-Muslims recognize us as both their classmates and as Muslims, that is human beings worthy of respect.

- kikuchiyo



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Posters(none / 0) (#10)
by anaeem on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 07:47:01 PM EST
Also OmarG with respect to the forum responses, almost every single one of them are from outside agitators linking on from jihadwatch.org.  That is why they are mostly being ignored and most of the responses of support we are getting are through our own intra-University communication network.  So be rest assured, the people of Emory are quite open-minded despite any preconcieved notions some Yankees (I'm not calling you that OmarG) have about the South




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